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Why Leave the Roman Catholic Church?

Nobody should be in a manmade religion for only a god can have the right to set up a religion.  But it is worse to be in Catholicism should it be manmade than to be in say Buddhism.  How bad it is depends on the religion.  The worse it is the more you should leave.  Another way to look at it is the religion has left you or you both leave each other.  If a religion proves dangerous or false and you are bigger and better than it then it is the one that let you down and it is leaving you.  It leaves you for it abandons you and leaves you to do the right thing.

The word Catholic reflects the doctrine that Christ is the whole truth and nothing but the truth and the Church is how he manifests himself and offers himself to all people on earth as their saviour.  Jesus said he accepts no half-committment -  you are for Jesus or against.  The same goes for the Church.  To respect that doctrine means  you have to contemplate leaving the Church should it prove to be a false Church.  If you don't follow the true religion you follow man not God.

Nobody who is for or against religion approves when you join a religion to hopefully help change its doctrines while thinking it is half nonsense. So why should you be accepted if you become a member and then start misrepresenting the doctrines and pretending you know better even than the founder of the religion what it should teach??

If good trees bear bad fruit at times imagine what a tree that is in error or lying will produce.

It is obvious that a religion should at least strive to preach the truth. If it does not, then it is corrupt and corruption leads to corruption. And if you give religious leaders authority and they are not entitled to it they may as well be corrupt. People in error often protect themselves from realising it. They may sense they are in error and protect themselves from clearly seeing it. Error leads to corruption and protects corruption by making it harder to weed out.
Corrupt people have to act as if they really believe their nonsense. They may even wrongly think they really believe. That is a tactic for discouraging those who try to get sense into them and is intended to make them give up trying through sheer frustration.

Necessary evil is unavoidable. But belief in God gives you more things to consider to be necessary evils than you would have if you were pagan or atheist. For example, obeying anybody is a necessary evil and if you have to obey God that is a necessary evil. If there is no God then it is not a necessary evil and just an evil. Atheists and pagans believe that if there are gods they have the right to differ from them so there is no strict need for obedience. If you are in a religion that you have to do necessary evil for, that evil is actually unnecessary if you don't need to be in that religion or if that religion is just human and not really directed and created by God.

If I go to mass and it is against my principle but I do it for my mother what then? I am putting a person's feelings before a principle. That is not right. But what if going to mass is against my principles but pleasing my mother is another principle? What if I have to sacrifice a principle? But my principle to be true to myself comes first. It is my life. I am insulting my mother's love by treating her as if she will never respect my duty to myself!

If you have serious doctrinal or moral differences with your religion join one that suits you better. You will be supported properly or should be. Staying in a religion and telling yourself that it will reform if there are enough people like you in it is just an excuse. It is logical to support the community that is reformed to your mind instead of staying out of it to reform another. If you who are not a religious expert know or are convinced that your priests and theologians are wrong then you are as good as saying your religion is corrupt and the leaders and teachers know fine well its rubbish. So what are you staying for?

Lots of people today are leaving the Roman Catholic Church. Some become unChurched Christians and others become atheists or agnostics.

Common reasons for leaving the Church are -

Intellectual doubts: the existence and character of God; suffering; faith and science, pluralism. Doubts about the religion really being based on God's authority rather than man's.

Negative church experience: hyper-spirituality, division, unanswered prayer, hypocrisy, legalism, guilt, excessive control, forced into Church by baptism and confirmation.

Rebellion against social pressure to conform religiously: pressure to believe from parents and friends with the - perhaps implied - threat of the loss of friendships and close relationships should you leave.

New cultural experiences and increasing independence: moving physically to a new culture, perhaps religion, and context

You must leave. Leave to avoid tacit approval or indirect approval for its dark teachings. Rebel totally against its lack of concern for giving evidence for its teachings. To rebel totally means leaving.
To be a member of a religion is by default to try to be the evidence and testimony for the religion. By refusing to at least discretely sever membership you are implying that the Church's evil is being supported by you though you may hate the evil. Tacit approval is showing you are willing to be silent and let something bad happen. Being a member of the Church to any level is more than tacit approval. It is active approval. You are saying yes to the rubbish even if you say you do not.
You should not be in an immoral religion in any sense when there are better systems of belief or knowledge out there.
If everybody were sufficiently Catholic, there would be no pubs, no brothels, no sex on television, no condoms, no abortion, no critiques of Catholicism by freethinkers, no facelifts, no interesting soaps, no violent movies, no practicing homosexuals, no divorce, no Madonna and no Lady Gaga. That is naming a few things we take for granted! Involvement in Catholicism is an insult to our civil liberties.

Leave Catholicism for you must avoid giving bad example. Its a bad example if you stay.
If you are in a religion that pretends to be from God when it is based on human authority, like anything human it will do some harm and perhaps get even worse. An honest person does not stay in a religion that they think makes grave errors when they can leave.
Cardinal George Pell said on “Q. & A.” on ABC T.V. on 19.4.2012 that “God loves everyone except those who turn their back on him through evil acts”. This is accurate Catholic doctrine. It is man proclaiming hate not God if there is no God and man is speaking for a manmade religion. A manmade religion speaks for man not God.

Leave to avoid the dishonesty of picking and choosing doctrines as if from a menu.
Leaveto respect the Church and its people by refusing to act like a loyal member when you are not.
Cherry-pickers like to claim that the religion will improve if more members become like them. But that assumes the religion is just a social club. Cherry-pickers speak for themselves and not the religion and every religion has cherry-pickers. So how can they make out that they really are working in the proper manner for change or legitimate change (every religion has its limits on what it considers a legitmate change)? They are not. They hurt the cause of change with their hypocrisy. They antagonise the loyal believers and make them more trenchant by using the religion for their own ends. A person who has the honesty to leave the Church politely and with respect and who dialogues with it if he wants change, is the one to be praised not the cherry-picker.

Leave Chriristnaity when you relaise that Jesus is not a suitable role-model. Want examples? Consider his approval for the barbaric Old Testament, his having done nothing for animal rights, his teaching that unrepentant sinners will be punished forever by God, his obsession with doctrine as if it really matters above all, his lying about knowing the future. His pretending that the Old Testament predicted himclearly when interpretation is just anybody's guess. His claim that he would prove his mission was from God by rising bodily from the dead! [A promise that failed because his tomb was open when there was nobody about so somebody could have stolen the body from it and even the New Testament settles for saying only that it was not found in the tomb].
Some gay Catholics go to communion while living in "sin". It is bizarre how people could be so attracted to a Jesus who condemns their morals. Jesus' Bible was the Old Testament which never mentioned loving enemies but claims that God wants certain sinners murdered. If Mein Kampf was the Bible, you would not regard any member of the religion based on this book as a son of God. And so why do you regard Jesus as the son for being no better?

Staying makes you look like a calculating individual who is undermining the faith from within. Staying in or "in" a religion to defeat it or to ruin its faith is a sneaky tactic. Even if you do not evangelise for cherry-picking you promote it by being yourself. Your beliefs give your life an ethos. That has an impact on others. Roman Catholicism is riddled with "faithful" and "loyal" Catholics who really want to see an implosion of traditional religion. It is true however that a person who wants to harm the Church can do it best by pretending to be a good Catholic. People are influenced more by those who they consider part of their group than they are by those who they consider to be outsiders.

Leave when you experience that the Church's remedies for sin and evil fail or at least cannot be shown to really work. Catholics are no better or worse than other religions. If the religion really were that special and set up by God to heal sinners by his supernatural grace and be the only reliable hospital for sinners you would expect to see exceptional and inexplicable degrees of holiness among Catholics. If every faith has 5 out of a hundred ministers who are child-molesters you would expect Catholicism to have a lower rate not the same rate. But sadly its rate is even worse. Catholicism is merely as human as every religion.
As long as you are listed as a member you are supporting the Church network of teaching and information. Suppose you have an area which is full of lapsed Catholics. The Church will reach them and be able to make use of them in its campaigns and that is because it has a channel of information through their continuing to be part of the network. If the network breaks off and becomes Anglican the bigoted teachings of a pope will not be fed to them. The feeding tubes are dislodged.
You can defect from the Church by officially joining another religion or atheist or humanist group.
The Catholic will tell those who want to leave, "Why bother getting your name off the books or formally defecting? If you don't believe then it doesn't matter. But surely not believing is a reason for getting your name off and terminating membership? The Catholic is not respecting the freedom of belief of the defector. And would the Catholic be happy if he or she was enrolled as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints or Islam or Hinduism?
The Catholic faith is a public faith. You represent and stand for the Church in all that you do if you are a Catholic. When you sin, you give bad example but you promote the faith in the sense that you show what a Catholic should not do. To be Catholic is to advertise Catholicism. The Church stresses this with its doctrine that it is a family and a communion and universal or Catholic and meant for all nations and people and individuals. If the Church is false you have to stop the advertising by leaving publicly and properly.
Avoid having to pay money to the church which it will use to spread its errors and dangerous teaching. A member has a duty to pay under Church law and the fact that if you think your religion is true and good then you should financially support it. One advantage of being an ex-member is being free from the duty to pay money to a religion that will use it in political campaigns to stop contraception and other human rights.
Avoid having to pay money for the support of deceiving theologians and bishops and popes. The Church openly teaches that the gospel message comes first. It only engages in charity work because the message would look bad if it didn't. Do not support Catholic charities that have a missionary ethos.
Merely having your name on the membership rolls of the Church is supporting the Church. As long as it is on, you consent to the authority of the Church and are doing wrong if you disparage or ignore that authority.  It is supporting the Church whether you like it or not because to keep things simple the Church has to count you a member until you defect officially or get into another religion.  What can you expect?  Avoid being part of the head count the Church does - the Church counts baptisms. Two people baptised in the Church counts as two Catholics. It then uses the numbers to make governments believe that it is more powerful than it actually is and the result is that the governments think it has great influence and should be taken seriously and maybe even allowed to influence or guide the law. 1.2 billion alleged members! This counts the baptised - would be better to estimate the number of those who may really believe. It is not right to honour a list of Catholics instead of looking to count those who are Catholic in their lives and attitudes and beliefs. It is making the list more important than the people. The Church uses the membership figures to get political clout and influence. The state would regard the Church as having less significance if the membership figures were not so high. Even though most members will be lukewarm and lapsed their name in the books gives the impression the Church wants it to give!
Avoid giving bad example to Catholics and those who are interested in Catholicism. To say things like, "I want to stay in the Church though I think its rubbish and others have the right to leave if they want to and I don't care - that is their choice" is really to mock rationality. Leaving is not an option but a duty if the religion is really rubbish. If you don't take a stand for integrity you are contributing to the rot in society and it is because of people similar to you that we have political corruption.

If you are not a Catholic in your heart it is not right to act as if you are for that deceives others and insults those who want you to be a real Catholic and not a pretender.
Until you officially leave the Roman Catholic Church you have no right to use contraception, contradict the Church in its solemn teaching or look for a divorce. You committed yourself to obey the Church and marry it when you accepted Holy Communion and confirmation. Confirmation involves vowing yourself to the service of the Church.
Atheists can agree with God if he exists that idolatry is a bad thing. Man-made religion is idolatry in itself. It does not need to worship statues. It is letting men benefit from speaking for God when they are really just speaking for themselves.
There is such a thing as being a mere number in an organisation but that only happens if you don't know enough about it to make an informed decision to be in it and if you were enrolled without your consent. There is more to being a number if you want to be a member of the organisation. But being numbered with a religion automatically and objectively implies support for it.  That overrides any subjective lack of support or opposition you are responsible for.  If you oppose something and are a member then you are still objectively a supporter.  It is hypocritical of you to cherry-pick its doctrines.  That is not an option. Go.
Those who know the religion is not the supernaturally revealed or credible faith community that it thinks it is, and who truly respect the religion, will leave it instead of staying inside and pretending to be a help rather than a hindrance.
They are a hindrance to those who wish to believe and to those who struggle and need great support to follow the religion. They are doing a disservice to those who wish to leave the religion and who don't want to be identified as members of that particular faith community. And they are doing a disservice to those who want to show their legitimate objection to the religion by leaving. It is harder to leave a religion if people expect you to be a hypocrite and stay.
Those who truly respect a religion will not try to make it agree with them simply because religion is not science. Religion is not open to being proven wrong while science is. They will not use the excuse, "But if I stay inside, my voice will be heard and changes might happen." You don't need to be inside to have a voice. What you are talking about is dishonest subversion - you hope that if enough people like you "follow" the religion that the Bible and the popes and the clergy will be forced to change. Every religion has people who make excuse "If I go I am not helping the problem with this religion which is that some of its doctrine is harmful and untrue". Honest people will look for another religion or become their own religion. If you care about truth you will support what is the "truest" religion.
Christianity says that Jesus claimed that many will be called into the faith but that few will be chosen. If you are a Catholic cherry-picker then you will come across as called to be a proper Catholic. No honest or knowledgeable Catholic will take you seriously if you protest against what you see as evil doctrines of the Church.
Some say that encouraging people to leave religion because it tells lies or does not take its morals seriously is implying that if they stay they are guilty by association. They are unless the evidence for the religion is very convincing and they understand the evidence. But some things are so mad and bad that no evidence for them counts! Evidence cannot make rubbish acceptable.
If serious wrong or untruth is part of a religion, to attend that religion's worship is to become guilty by association. And even more so to be a member of that religion. The Catholics who object when the pope goes and begs the Africans to believe that a rapist who has AIDS and who wears a condom is worse than one who does not are deeper in the sharing of the evil responsibility than the ignorant who don't even realise how evil and dangerous the pope is being. The objectors only make hypocrites of themselves and their lack of credibility only wrecks the cause of human rights. They are not really helping unless they divorce the Church. They have the freedom to do it these days so they are without excuse. The gay person who joins the Church is working against the cause of gay rights and detrimental to the credibility of these rights even if he or she is a militant gay rights activist. His membership says that though the Church causes gay people to commit suicide by condemning their love its not a huge deal.
Desires (or wants) and needs are not the same thing. You can need something without desiring it. And you can desire something without needing it. Rights are based on needs not desires. You need shelter and food and love so you have a right to these things. Simplicity is a right. Anything extra is an accessory. If anybody wants you to believe in a complicated faith or if things are not kept as simple as possible then your rights are being contravened. Leave complicated religions. In fact, it would be better to realise that even the simplest religion is a complication!
Caring about what other people think about me is bad for me. That is why separating from religion and engaging in my DIY Faith - faith is not necessarily religion - is so important. When I join a religion I am saying I will care what the leaders and the god and the members will think of me and that I will live as they expect me to. I am telling them to care what I do and telling them what to think about me.

Catholicism makes martyrs and heroes of those who die for it.  A religion that calls on people to die for its doctrines is a murderer actually and potentially if it is a manmade religion.  A religion that regards evil revelations from God as sacred and true - or worse which justifies them or ignores them - is sharing in the evil.  Nobody should enter such a religion.  That would be bad but to put a child in it would be heinous.  While it is wrong to call all members of any religion, even a murderous one, murderers for not all toe the line or have enough faith to obey, it is right to tell them to leave the religion for they are too good to tarnish themselves by being members.  No religion or culture is worth a single life.

It doesn't matter whether Catholicism is from God or man, the fact remains that if you sign up to it you are obligated to worship in it not in other Churches except in ceremonies that are non-denominational. You are obligated to believe what it commands and to refuse to deny the doctrines you struggle with. A religion cannot function without boundaries. It is not the religion that binds you to worship but your own signing up to it. However Catholicism would disagree and argue that as the Church is God's only authorised way of bringing you to himself that there is more to it than just your consent. You are obligated also because God commands it. We reject that view. To release yourself from the obligation to believe the Church and obey you must leave the Church publicly.  This duty comes from reason and commonsense.

It is confusing and even upsetting for seekers how there can be so many professed Catholics who pick and choose what they want to think from the Catholic religion. Those individualists think that if they reject some teachings even if they are core ones they can still call themselves Catholic. So that redefines Catholic as one who likes or follows some of the practices or teachings. But some may not be enough. Who defines what is enough? They are saying that the word Catholic is about how you define yourself. So if you call yourself one and claim to identify as one then you are one. That is an insult to dedicated Catholics and discourages attempts to be properly dedicated. It is nonsense. Too many people like you and soon there will be no Catholic religion.  The label you want is a puzzle for you have emptied the label of any real value or meaning.  Is it a label you want or an excuse to call yourself Catholic?

The word Catholic is meant to describe the core characteristic and feature of the religion and not be a mere label. Catholic means universal – the faith that all can join if they inform themselves carefully. Thus the proper label for a cherry-picker from a Catholic background is not Catholic but Protestant.
It is vital that Catholics defect from the Church for the reasons given. Leave the Church.