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Women denied priesthood and made second class citizens in Roman Catholic Church
 
Many feel that as you have the freedom to walk away from the Church and do not, you consent to any maltreatment by it. That is why it is legal for the Church to discriminate against women. In reality, the women are agents of their own maltreatment.

The pope puts God before women when he denies women the role of the priesthood. He says women are not called to the priesthood and this is not sexism and that men and women are equal. But there is no difference between saying this and saying that women should obey their husbands for it is their role and they are not called to be boss over men. Equality that is not put into practice spells sexism. It is practice not theory that equality is about. It is another glaring sign of Catholic dishonesty that the doctrine of the Bible that women must submit to their husbands as heads of the house is no longer mentioned. Catholic means universal so a Church that denies equality to women is only tolerating women and not accepting them therefore it is not Catholic. It is too late for the Church to turn Catholic now for it cannot be the true Church when it lost its mark of Catholicity which it itself says is an essential mark of the true Church. The greatest crime against women of all is how God a masculine term is applied to the Supreme Being to the exclusion of the term Goddess. God is Father not Mother. He is Son not Child or Daughter. The Holy Spirit is also referred to as a male. This implies that femininity should be underrepresented and that men should trample on women. The Bible speaks of God as having given birth only once which is the only bit that seems to indicate that God is mother. But nevertheless it comes up in a bit of poetry. Male seahorses give birth not the females. Men give birth to ideas and business and countries so there is no need to assume that God is saying he is really mother. The sexism of the Bible certainly proves that the Bible is a lousy man-made document. Without woman there would be no man which makes this totally revolting. God imposed plenty of rules on his people that they did not like and womenís rights were not among these rules. Criminal.

The Roman Catholic Church says it has no authority from God to ordain women to the priesthood. Any attempt to ordain women would not work. The result would be only a pretend priest not a real one.
 
A God who is not a God of equal opportunity is not much of a God. The male gets the honour of priesthood. This is based on gender when it should be based on the virtue of the person. A man of mediocre faith and virtue can become a priest while a woman of flaming faith and outstanding virtue cannot. This is outrageous as is the fact that too many people are so desensitised by the Church that they do not feel the appropriate disgust. It is really no better than people in India being denied certain opportunities just because of their caste.

The Church says that men and women are equal but have different roles. It says women do not have the role of priesthood and so it is not discrimination to exclude them from ordination. The Church might as well say that women should not be doctors as say they should not be priests. The roles excuse does not hold water in relation to the priesthood. It is sexism pure and simple.

Tradition says women cannot be validly ordained. Constant tradition is infallible for Jesus promised the gates of Hell would never prevail over the Church. Thus we plainly see that tradition is proved fallible by the exclusion of women. It is also proven uncharitable.

It is said that the Church oppresses women. The Church replies that women are the most devoted servants of the Church so that canít be true and nobody forces them to be Catholics or stay Catholics. That is no answer. It is like saying men do not oppress women when most women live as if they were subservient to men! It gives validity to that horrible chauvinism!

That women would support an organisation that degrades their very sex is worrying. It shows that there is some kind of addiction present. It bolsters the thought that religion preys on peopleís vulnerability. It shows that people are dangerously irrational. Religion can only be dangerous in the hands of irrational people who care more about what they want to be true than what is true.

WOMEN PRIESTS BAN SEXIST

Arguments for women being priests comprise:
 
Sentimental - I would like to see Mary as a priest for she is so nice
 
Utilitarian - Mary has the qualities that makes a good priest
 
Political - Mary is equal to any man and so should be ordained if she wants to be
 
The Church says these reasons are valid but they are overridden by the fact that scripture and tradition say women cannot be ordained validly ever. This is a clear instance of putting faith before people. That is discrimination so how can the Church ask us to believe that Church teaching is not sexist?
 
Opponents of women being ordained priests or clergy say they believe that men and women are equal. They deny that their strange teaching that women cannot be validly ordained is misogynistic and sexist for women are not called to the priesthood for they maintain that women have a different role than men have.

A role is only a specific duty that you are suited for and which you have for the betterment of the world. Chaos would follow without roles. The priesthood is supposed to be a manís role or job. This could be fair enough it if it is true.
 
Under extreme circumstances you cannot think about maintaining roles. For example, the role of motherhood is presently confined to women. But if women all died out then science would have to enable men to carry babies and give birth. Then it would be manís role. Roles change to suit the circumstances. The Church is saying that we were all made for so-called roles instead of saying the roles were made for us. Her doctrine is dehumanising.  She will answer that a woman will never need to be ordained.  That is not the point.  The point is the Church even if it were necessary to save the world will not ordain.
 
Priests claim to be able to save people from Hell, the place of eternal torture from which there is no escape, by giving them the sacraments and forgiving their sins and teaching them the saving gospel. The pope and other Christian leaders are against women priests even if there is no other way to get priests. God miraculously could turn women into men so that they could be ordained for the job of saving souls from Hell by bringing them absolution. The Church doesn't want that so its attitude can only be out of hatred for women. When people going to Hell is preferred to ordaining women to save them what else can it be? If Jesus approves of this fanaticism he is far from respectable. The pope needs priests and yet he will not ordain women or married men so he prefers to let the flock suffer. This has cataclysmic consequences particularly in the Third World countries where thousands die in horror without priests and in the fear of eternal damnation which only a priest can save them from.

Protestants just use ordained ministers for communion. Apart from that they are superfluous. The way Paul says we break and bless the communion in the Bible suggests that the clergy can be lived without even for communion and most Churches accept that. It is an insult to women to say that they cannot be authorised to consecrate bread and wine. A good God does not make arbitrary rules. Protestants donít really need ordained ministers at all so for them to forbid women clergy is a terrible scandal.
 
The Church claims that men and women should not have equal opportunity for they donít have the same roles. They then point to some things that women can do that men canít like having babies as evidence. The fact that men and women have some roles laid upon them by nature does not mean that their roles are different in anything else. It is as arbitrary to suggest that women that women should obey husbands and not be priests as it is to say that a man should not wash his own clothes but get a woman to do it.

To say that a woman can never have a priestly role is to state that she is inferior to man. If Christianity is true then priesthood is the ultimate caring profession so the implication is that women are not as nice as men. If they canít qualify for that caring role how can they qualify for any other.
 
To say that women cannot be made priests or ministers betrays a conception of God as malignant for he invents sins and lies for he condemns some acts as well as evil when they arenít.

Those who are against female clergy attempt to promote sexism and then conceal their bitterness. They seek to prevent the Church from being genuinely against it. It has to pay lip service to equality.

UNFAIR TO OPPOSE WOMAN CLERGY

Many Christian Churches continue to cling steadfastly to the old-fashioned notion that women are not for ordination as deacons, priests and bishops. This is what the Roman Catholic Church does and many Protestant Churches that donít believe in priests are hostile to ordaining women ministers.
 
Some women argue that they have a right to be ordained. This is bad theology for ordination is a grace and grace is undeserved, something to which we have no right. The Church insists that nobody at all has a right to be ordained for all the blessings received from God are undeserved and it is the blood of Jesus that takes away sin and makes you clean. If you are forgiven by God, it is not because you deserve it. So nothing from God comes as a right so the Church argues from that that women cannot complain if Jesus does not want them as priests. Everything comes from the generosity of God. So though the Church refuses to admit it, God is more generous to men then than women! The Church may say he gives other blessings to women in its place that make up for it. But no two people are blessed alike. One woman may be a very good person and have a mediocre and unlucky life while a nasty lady can have a better life. Life has let the good woman down but God may have blessings he would like to give her but other things get in the way. But nothing can stop him from giving the grace of the sacrament of order so there is no excuse. To say God does not ordain women because women have no right to be ordained is the exact same as saying that God has no right to ordain a woman though she would make a great priest meaning he has no right to have this great priest. Plus even if you sin and you cannot get rid of the sin except a blood sacrifice like Jesus dies for your sin to earn you the possibility that God will restore your good relationship with him it is not your fault that you could not get rid of the sin so you would have the right to blessings from God. You would have the right to be ordained if you have the basic qualities that are required. Bad theology as always then makes good commonsense. Not ordaining women implies that women have no rights. No matter how bad you have been in the past, to say you have no right to a grace that will help you make others and yourself live holy lives is wholly contradictory. Everybody has a right to be helped to become a better person and the sacraments of the Catholic Church deny that by pretending to be free gifts from God that are not and cannot be earned.
 
When ordained, despite all the Church says, there is no denying that a man ceases to be equal in value to other people but becomes a superior being. When that is seen, it becomes totally clear that to deny the priesthood to women is to deny that women are equal to men. It even denies that men who are not ordained are as valuable as men who are. 
 
The Church will say that priests are treated with greater respect than ordinary people but they are not better than they are. Donít be taken in by this. They are trying to prevent you from seeing the snobbery of clericalism and priestcraft. It is a mistake to imagine that saying all people are considered equal makes this clericalism all right. It is how people are treated that really matters. There is no point in saying people are equal if some are going to be treated like they were gods. People who are treated as gods have no problem saying that all are equal for it makes no difference to them. They wouldnít mind if people believed that people who were richer than them or smarter were better as human beings than they were as long as they got keeping their golden egg. So bragging about recognising the equality of all people achieves nothing. 
 
We live in a world that treats people better the higher their position in society. That is the way things are. But God has no need to limit the power to change bread and wine into Jesus and to forgive sins to priests. Why does God restrict this power to validly ordained priests? The Church might reply that the reason for the limitation is to protect unity and solidarity with the papacy and the bishops. In other words, having officials with authority is better for the power of the Church. If that is the reason, then why didn't God make a rule that the congregation can turn the bread and wine into Christ along with the priest instead of the priest doing it for them? That would serve the alleged purpose better! 
 
Laypeople should be able to absolve sins under certain conditions. The absurd limitation of this power to the priest definitely makes the priest out to be a god or a human being that God regards as more valuable than a layman. In this light, women must be the inferior sex when ordination even just to absolve is not an option for them. In this light, it is better for twenty good men to be put to death when it is the only way to avoid the death of a priest for the priest is more valuable. It is the priestís duty to consent to such things. Another thing is this. When laymen cannot forgive sins which is the most important job there is and since the priest can it follows that where priests are scarce it is better for a whole village to give its life for the life of the priest. That women cannot have this prestige is a further indication that they are not human beings but semi-humans.
 
Is it rational to say that women canít be priests because their bodies arenít male?
 
That is like saying that people will a different skin colour from yours shouldnít be allowed to be secretaries. That is not a reason. There is no reason why women cannot serve as priests. If they can do the job then why not?
 
It is blasphemous to suggest that God wills women to stay out of the priesthood because they are women and then to criticise anyone who says that a man should not wash clothes for that is a womanís role. It is not right to impose roles on people that they might not have. If women can do the job of being priests then it is sexism to use the role excuse to say they cannot be ordained. The Church says would be discrimination to forbid women priests if God allowed them but he does not. This is a sexist suggestion for what is to stop people from thinking that women have no role or vocation from God to be teachers? It is illegal to say women should not be teachers so it should be the same to say that they cannot be priests. It is sexist to say that God determines what woman can or cannot do and not her nature. I repeat, a womanís nature can enable her to serve as a priest therefore God is discriminating against her and so is the Church by suggesting otherwise.
 
It is blasphemous to reason that it is sinful to make a woman a priest. That reasoning is accusing God of condemning as wrong what cannot be wrong. Not everybody that is made a priest is called to be a priest though they think they are so you cannot say it is a sin for women are not called for that is an insufficient reason because it cannot be proved.
 
If there is a reason then it must be that women must have weak minds and are dopey which disqualifies them. This is nonsense too.

It is selfish if a religion is of man and men have the honour of being clergy and not women.