THE LIE OF ETERNAL PUNISHING
ABOUT HELL
The scriptures of Christianity,
Mormonism and Islam teach that those who die in unbelief and estranged from God
will not be able to escape from horrendous torture. This torture will last
forever. The state of torture is called Hell. It is the purpose of this work to show that the doctrine is extremely cruel. It
denies that God is good. This book hopes that those who teach the doctrine or
support any religious system that teaches it will see the error of their ways
and stop.
Christians will not consider following a faith that says God had sex with a virgin for a
good purpose. Presumably what God does is okay as long as it hurts people to the
extreme. According to Christian dogma, an eight year old boy can go to Hell just
for masturbating or for not accepting Christ. They find that more palatable.
That says a lot about them. The sentence of everlasting punishment which
involves everlasting torment and abandonment by God is the worst thing
imaginable. If we can condone God allowing such a thing and creating such a
state then we can condone anything. Why? Because anything else is not as bad as
it.
DOES DYING IN SIN MEAN YOU SHOULD BE DAMNED?
Here, we are not thinking about what makes a person stay in Hell but are asking
if they choose Hell by dying in unremitted sin as the Church maintains.
You can be sure that when you speak against the Christian and Islamic doctrine
of everlasting punishment that the believers will try to blame people for being
damned because they died unreconciled with God and they give out the pat answer,
“It’s their choice.” They say he does everything to keep us out of Hell. The
choice is made at death and not a moment before or after. The extreme nastiness
of anybody saying such a thing and making such a terrible accusation is apparent
from the fact that you can only say a person deserves something in proportion to
the evidence for their guilt for there is nothing else to go by. Therefore to
accuse anybody of deserving to suffer forever is to require infinite proof that
they are that bad and such proof cannot be had. Death is so awful and you go to
Hell at death if you deserve it according to Christianity. That doesn’t sound
very sympathetic for such an awful thing as dying.
POINT 1. A choice can be reversed.
If God were good he would ignore my choice to go to Hell and wait until I make a
better one. He could reincarnate me to give me a second chance. When he doesn’t
have to send everybody who chooses Hell to Hell, he doesn’t have to send
anybody. If I choose Hell now he ignores me unless I die. Doing evil to a person
who wants abuse is wrong. Sending a person to Hell is evil for helping that
person to repentance and salvation is better. Hell-fire religions show a
profound lack of compassion and regard for repentance when they declare that a
person who chooses Hell belongs in it in the sense that he or she ought to be
sent there.
POINT 2. The rude idea that God can do as he pleases with us is wrong.
They say he owes us nothing – not the point, we should be able to improve. He is
not afraid we will sin to the full if we think our chances will never run out
for Hell guarantees that we will never change.
POINT 3. The idea that the souls in Hell are better off there as Heaven would be
Hell for them anyway is plainly wrong.
Some give the doctrine of damnation a compassionate ring, “The souls in Hell
have chosen to be separated from God forever so they have to be given what they
want. The damned chose forever torment when they died and to give them anything
else would be cruel so it is kinder to put them in Hell forever. If they were in
Heaven they would hate it so much that they would rather be in the harrows of
Hell.”
Who could seriously choose eternal torment? Those who have allegedly chosen it
have chosen sin but not Hell. How could they choose Hell especially if they hate
God for they know it pleases him under the circumstances that they are in the
agony of Hell? It is not possible for any to pick evil unless some good is seen
in it. If being in Heaven is bad for the wicked and that is why they won't be
admitted to it then why is there torment in Hell if God thinks they should not
suffer? God is still being accused of cruelty.
Nobody would choose everlasting torment. Nobody can resist a God of love and
being with him and being his friend. Anybody who chooses Hell forgets what
goodness is so the choice is a mistake and God can’t punish for that and
especially he can’t punish with Hell. Even if they did hate God they would
rather be with him than in Hell, to be in the place he made. It would be like
letting somebody roast you on a spit while you claim to hate them. You wouldn’t
give them the satisfaction. Instead, you would try to work towards repentance.
Making up your mind to abandoning sin for any reason can be the first step to
holiness and living without sin.
The damned would like Heaven better than Hell. They don’t need to be able to see
God and enjoy him so it would be like a permanent holiday resort to them with
trees and beaches and games and the celestial equivalent of sunshine. If God
hasn’t the heart to put them in Heaven or a paradise then God thinks they should
not be punished.
POINT 4. God can stop the Hell-deserving choice.
If God is infinite perfection then to be with him to be as happy as possible, so
happy that one will not part from him. God could give this happiness to all
people for a second so that they will never sin no matter what happens to them.
Even if they are sinners he can do this for it is necessary to prevent sin. It
is better to condone their sin to destroy it than to let it be. This makes it
nonsense to blame sinners for their damnation. It’s not really condoning when
you have to overlook sin to destroy it. Actually it is the contrary.
If we sin for we do not know how attractive and fulfilling God
is, then no sin is based on a really informed choice. God has
the duty to inform us. Sin is not really sin for it is not
properly chosen. It is evil to call anybody a sinner or to say
they need Jesus to die for their sins to atone.
POINT 5. If any venial sin exists all should be venial.
Even the smallest sin tells evil which cannot be controlled to exist and brings
it into existence. Evil is infinitely bad because when you bring it into
existence to cause disorder the disorder could end up being infinite and
everlasting. Venial sin is a lie.
If Roman Catholicism is correct to declare that some sin does not take away your
friendship with God and expel him from your soul and make you ready for Hell
then all sin should be of this kind or venial in other words. All sin deserves
Hell so God must be pretending that some sin does not deserve Hell. By ensuring
that some sins do not cast him out of the soul and deserve Hell he should make
sure that none of them do this.
The more reason you have to think that there is somebody inside a shed you are
going to blow up the more evil you are if you blow it up anyway.
If Hell-deserving sins are possible, God should have concealed his existence,
more than religion says he does, so that nobody could reject his love
deliberately so that they would not be guilty of an unlimited offence that
deserves never-ending torture when they sin. When he makes so many of us
unintelligent we should all be unintelligent. It is chiefly his fault if anybody
decides to live in Hell. God could have miraculously made us unable to grasp
that he is the infinite perfection so that infinite sin would not be possible.
People could grow through suffering as much as they do now and all go to Heaven
after that.
POINT 6. If God exists and any are saved then God ignores the Hell choice for
all deserve Hell so the choice is not the reason for damnation.
All sin is mortal for God hates it infinitely and we all sin so nobody goes to
Heaven. If anybody does go then God is not letting choice get in the way of
saving people. Choice is no excuse for damning people.
POINT 7. God should not kill people in mortal sin.
If God doesn’t want anybody to go to Hell then he shouldn’t end their lives when
they are in mortal sin and should wait until they have obtained his forgiveness
first instead.
The Bible vindictively has God who orders certain sinners brought out to be
stoned to death brutally and never even mentioned allowing for them to have a
chance to repent.
God does want souls in Hell and is lying if he says that he does all he can to
keep people out of it. He takes the lives of people in mortal sin. Religion says
he has to do that. Then why can’t he put them on another planet in another body
where everything is exactly as it is on earth making them think they have never
died so that they may repent of their mortal sin in time? This wouldn’t
encourage sin when people don’t know about it.
God gives some people long lives. They have got a better chance of repenting and
avoiding Hell than others who die young in mortal sin. This is not fair. Rome
says it is for God doesn’t owe anybody more chances but that is a very unfair
teaching. He does for if we all have done good then we all deserve the grace of
repentance.
Apologists assert that if God gave everybody the same chance people would sin to
the full until they think their chances are nearly up. So it is a sin to make
sure that you won’t die suddenly by running to the hospital for regular
check-ups.
If Jesus were doing his best he would appear to all the people on earth so that
they might convert. Christianity foolishly blurts that it would do no good as if
it were not worth a try.
Blaming the damned for their plight is cruel because God set them up to make the
wrong choice. It is mostly his fault. No it is all his fault for though they
deserve it they should still be protected from Hell.
To say that the damned are in Hell through their own deathbed choice and that it
is not God’s fault is to accuse them unjustly and to take the tyrannical God’s
side. It is even worse when you are less sure there is a God than you are that
they exist. It takes a lot to pretend that the damned made the choice not God
when it is mainly because of him that they made it. What evidence is there that
they chose Hell? To say they did is to say that they were so incredibly evil
that they could make an evil choice and stick to it forever. That is a very
serious slander for no mortal sinner – not even a Hitler could be that bad. It
slanders us all for we are all seen as sinners who deserved Hell. Religion is
happy to smear people to get what it wants. To accuse people of a sin that makes
God make sure they will never change and rot in Hell forever is not as bad as
accusing them of maintaining that choice themselves moment by moment for all
eternity. Doctrines like this lead to people being very shallow even if they
hide it well.
Some admit that nobody would choose to go to Hell forever but hold that they do
not choose Hell but sin and that is why they are in Hell (page 28, Whatever
Happened to Heaven?). But that is wrong and absurd. Sin does them no good in
Hell for there is no money or sex there only suffering. And it is also absurd to
say they choose Hell. So it is absurd to reason that when they choose sin, Hell
is part of the equation so they choose it just every bit as much.
It is undeniable that when we are dying we are so scared of the thought of going
to Hell that there is no way we would choose to go there and we would repent as
soon as we see the gates of Hell. If we wanted to go to Hell we would not be
afraid. But the Church still tells the very obvious lie that we choose Hell.
The Church says that God is love and justice. The two go together – they never
conflict. The notion of God preferring to punish destroys this doctrine for it
is concerned about justice and not love which desires the healing of the sinner.
Love is supposed to be the best attribute but this has it suppressed.
POINT 8, If you can say people who die in sin as a result of sudden death before
they had a chance to change their minds about going to Hell have chosen Hell,
then why can't you say that homosexuals or heretics once they commit their "sin"
have made a final choice? Why can't you say if they live good lives after their
sin or if they claim to have repented they are lying and they are still destined
to go to Hell? In brief, why single out the dead? Why can't the the final
choice against God be made decades before you die?
It is fairer to choose the living than the dead. The living could be said to be
throwing away the chance to repent which can't be said of those who die
suddenly. If you claim the right to believe that sinners who die go to Hell
forever, then you can't deny somebody the right to believe that this final
choice can be made in life as well. You can say for example that a Christian who
converts to Islam will never be forgiven even if she or he pretends she or he
is. There is something warped about disapproving of people saying that or being
angry when they do if you believe that those who die in sin choose Hell forever.
OTHER THOUGHTS
* Hell is Eternal and that is Why it Has to Be a Prison.
Nothing forces God to put us in an eternal Hell. He could keep us in time.
If you believe that there is no time in Hell then you believe that the person
cannot change for where there is no time there is no alteration. But God can
withdraw them from eternity and put them in time so that they might change.
Hell cannot be timeless for there is nothing terrible about undergoing a moment
of great agony in time. In eternity it is the same thing except that there is no
past or future but it feels the same as the present moment does. It is like a
frozen moment without a sense of anything passing. If Hell is punishment for
infinite malicious intent it has to be worse than that.
* God Punishes therefore Hell is a Prison.
New Age and trendy religion says that God never punishes but we punish
ourselves.
This has connotations of believing that evil should be condoned not punished for
punishment is bad. Punishment is bad when God won’t do it. It mocks Christian
morality and also society. If we punish ourselves then is the hatred others will
have for us if we do evil punishment? It can’t be for hatred is wrong. And if
God attaches bad results to certain sins such as promiscuity and alcoholism so
that we can punish ourselves then is he not setting it up that punishment will
follow? Is he not punishing us after all?
It is hard to restrain a stab of affection for God upon hearing this sweet stuff
about a God who never punishes. Upon thinking, the only thing we have to
restrain is disappointment.
Do we punish ourselves instead of being punished by God? It is surmised that the
heavy drinker’s punishment is ill health which he has brought on or inflicts on
himself. This makes God look like a mere gutless pleasure-giving bland bore. But in
reality, God thinks that it is good enough for him and only refrains from
punishing for he doesn’t need to administer it. By not acting to stop the
suffering he is causing it and meting out retribution. God made and sustains the
law that drink would harm so he is punishing. God does punish.
Also, the drinker is not intending to punish himself so the doctrine is absurd
beyond belief. The drinker sees the suffering as a means to the pleasure of
drink or a worthwhile result of it. If people like going to jail and being there
then it is not punishment any more. Punishment involves the use of force on the
victim and the removal of their freedom.
It does not matter if the drinker is punished by God or punishes
themselves. They need help. To say they are sick when
they do wrong and need punishment is just vindictive.
I was aware of the wrongness of the doctrine since the first time I heard of it
which led to much confusion in my religious thinking. But the point in bringing
all this up is that if we are punished by God then he must force it on us. We
must still be able to sin because if we are not, then we don’t deserve the
punishment anymore. Think. If a murderer loses his reason then he cannot be
justly punished any more for his crimes. If he got a life sentence, he must be
paroled. This means that we can be forced into Hell and manipulated to stay
there and sin there.
So we see then that the doctrine of being made to stay in Hell makes God evil.
If God is good then it is untrue.
FINALLY
Human nature by definition is changeable. It may take years for a
person to change but they do. Hell depends on a person being incorrigible
forever which is an attack on human nature. The doctrine is a punishment
to our ears.