Evolution can be seen as a god in the sense that it makes things keep improving, or as the same as god though it is not really.  A guiding principle might do the work you expect from a god without being one or being in any way a person.  Some think a Christian style God outside the universe but who is still very close to it works within nature to make things grow and develop.  Others think God and nature are the same thing so evolution is God.


Religion gravitates towards the idea that there is a power that is not matter or energy as we know it.  We call it spirit.  It is non-physical.  But is it real? 

What properties would such a being need to give us the universe and our bodies?

Some see it as an evolutionary force, a godlike principle slowly but surely progressing us.

Make no mistake.  Evolution is not a plan but a pattern that might be easily taken for a plan.  Our brains "discern" patterns that are not there.

The evolution force would need to be an intelligence it seems, as evolution has got very complicated.  But a few simple rules can allow complexities to just happen.  You can get endless patterns with a pile of red squares and a pile of blue ones just by throwing them up in the air.

Some may want to say it is mere evolution and doesn’t have any other powers. That is fine.

I would not call it God for God should mean an infinitely loving and infinitely powerful being.  This thing is only about what it is about and not about love.

Is the spirit evolution, the power to make things improve? No for things frequently devolve. So where you have development you also have development reversed and ruined.  No matter what view of evolution you have you have to admit evolution is a generalisation not a specific term.  It is a mix of evolution, nothing-happening and de-evolution.

At the present time, as wonderful as we are, we are NOT AN EVOLUTION.  We destroy.  We make creatures extinct.  We are ruining the planet.  All who want to link evolution and God presume that it is mainly or ultimately about us.  It is not.  If evolution were really doing a job and doing it right it would have us eliminated.

Back to the spirit power we discussed.  It would seem that it will have two attributes slowness/tardiness and the power to design. This would make suffering a stepping-stone to something better but not necessarily for the sufferers.  And we must remember that the power to design is the power to design and slowness or fastness does not come into it as another attribute.  It is how the design works and it is not another property.  It is no good as a god for it is not very capable.  People who want help from a higher power don't want the help to be centuries away and they don't want the help to be given on Friday and removed on Saturday.  It is only valuable as an idea but nothing else.  It is not of "spiritual" value.

Those who link evolution and faith are basing it on the feeling that it gave us free will.  We deny free will.  Thus we dare not say that suffering has value because it would be allowing all possible harms and evils. If we are programmed to do evil when it is beneficial then it is evil to stop evil.  We are reacting creatures so seeing evil as it is, useless, will help us be better people.

They cannot explain exactly how free will can be provided for by nature or come about.  Their view is not science.  You cannot send somebody back in time 2 minutes to see if they could choose lemon cake this time instead of chocolate.  Free will may be untestable yes.  But there is nothing in science to even show it is possible.

A lot of the thinking we have refuted here is down to poor analogies.  The evolution as religious power idea treats it like electricity.  Electricity is not a spirit or anything like it and therefore it cannot prove that a spirit can do much of importance. Electricity has lots of attributes. It can flash, it can make things move etc.  It is ghostly and mysterious but it is not like some kind of being that has no parts.

Do not be gaslit.  The god or spirit or whatever of the evolutionist religion sympathisers is not scientific.  Many religious liars steal the language of science to make their religious superstitions sound smarter.


Some might say, "There is a spiritual force that facilitates evolution. It is the power to evolve things. The power need not know anything. The law that 1=1 is impersonal. In a similar way, an impersonal law of evolution could be a framework that allows things to develop." 

It is careful to point out how a reality can help another thing to develop but it is not doing it consciously or of its own choice.  It is not the cause of the way things are.  It is the framework in which things can happen.   The difference can be hard to see.  1 and 1 being 2 may make it possible to be a double murderer but 1 and 1 being 2 is not causing your double slaying.

1=1 is so simple but yet it is a framework. All maths comes from it.  It is wrong to say that this or any single principle is the DIRECT or INDIRECT cause or basis of every other rule and principle. It is the framework where things can happen in.  Even if nobody discovers mathematical truth it is still there. Electricity is the same.  It does many wonderful things and it is only an impersonal force. It is a framework itself.  You can conclude, "Therefore a single uncreated and unmade spiritual infinite principle has made what exists possible."  If so why are you calling it a God and falling into idolatry by adoring it?  You don't even need the cause talk.  Framework would suffice.

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