ANSWERING RELIGIOUS EXCUSES FOR SPREADING FAITH TO CHILDREN

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch commented on Friendly Atheist's post.

Gibraltar Court Rules That Catholic Mother Can’t Baptize Son Without Atheist Father’s Approval
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The man and woman are making a big deal out of the baptism for opposite reasons. Only one of them is right. He wants to protect his child from somebody who cannot see that you don't need baptism or religion to be good. She is making the biggest deal so she deserves what she gets. She imagines the baptism will marry her child to her evil God and her lying religion and save the child from hell.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch commented on Friendly Atheist's post.

Gibraltar Court Rules That Catholic Mother Can’t Baptize Son Without Atheist Father’s Approval
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Of this case somebody commented “Making such a big deal [of baptism] really goes against our atheist cause.”

Whose side are you on? The father needs support for it is his choice not yours to oppose the baptism. Baptism is a big deal when it commits a child to a faith that has violent scriptures and threatens  unbaptised with some punishment. Is that the kind of message you want a child to hear?

Plus the fact that for religion it is a big deal and that is important. Infant baptism is the number one reason why Christianity has so much power in society and schools.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch commented on Friendly Atheist's post.

Gibraltar Court Rules That Catholic Mother Can’t Baptize Son Without Atheist Father’s Approval

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Child baptism is evil for it accuses the child of needing forgiveness and ignores the fact that unbaptised people are generally as good as baptised. It's a quack rite that commits you to an evil violent God of lies and murder such as you find in the Bible.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to Aaron Rieder's comment.

Gibraltar Court Rules That Catholic Mother Can’t Baptize Son Without Atheist Father’s Approval
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Aaron Rieder For many religions such as Catholicism baptism is more than a dedication ritual. The Church says it creates an "ontological" change. And the child becomes duty bound to obey the cruel and superstitious rules of the Church. And dedication to a God and Jesus who were downright vicious in the Bible is not a good thing.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to Brandon Mikula's comment.

Gibraltar Court Rules That Catholic Mother Can’t Baptize Son Without Atheist Father’s Approval
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It is not about that man and woman only. It will give more rights to others in similar situations. The fact of the matter is that a secular state should not care about a spiritual ritual and thus has the right to order that parents like that man and woman should leave the baptism decision to the child.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to Philip Martin's comment.

Gibraltar Court Rules That Catholic Mother Can’t Baptize Son Without Atheist Father’s Approval
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A law against forcing membership in a religion on a baby or child would need to ban child baptism. It would seem odd to ban forms of child initiation such as circumcision and not ban infant baptism. Baptism is not violent like circumcision but both reflect one bad principle and that principle is that religion and faith matter more than the child. That principle is where the violence starts and gets enabled.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch likes Beware of False Kabbalah's photo.

Karen Berg and "The Light"

Ever wondered why Karen Berg, the leader of the Kabbalah Centre cult, keeps referring to "the Light" when she appears to be speaking about the Creator? Why not just say, "the Creator" or "YHVH יהוה" - why does she keep saying "the Light"?

The Zohar does not use this way of referencing the Creator, it uses "The Holy One Blessed be He", or "the Creator" or "Hashem"

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to Mary Haybyrne's comment.

Monica Gallen If you would read the Bible, the book which the Church hails as God's infallible word, and see all the violence that God commanded. Women were stoned to death for adultery. Babies were slaughtered in genocide. If you are Catholic or Christian your faith is founded on blood. Maybe some day ISIS will be preaching peace but that does not change the fact that it does not hate violence enough to drop its scriptures.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch likes John Halligan's post.

Unspeakable, horrific scenes from Orlando today. My heart goes out to all those affected. Not long after the first anniversary of our historic referendum, we're reminded in the most brutal fashion that there are still vicious bigots who want inflict their hate on the gay community and attempt to derail society's inevitable journey towards equality. And again, again, again; the wanton irresponsibility of American gun laws there for all to see.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch likes John Halligan's post.

The Chilcot Report finally confirms what the dogs in the street have known since 2003: the invasion of Iraq was based on a web of lies and deceit which has resulted in the deaths of far more people than were killed under Saddam Hussein's brutal regime. Not only that, it has destabilised the entire Middle East, and its consequences are still being felt around the world, not least with the horrific ISIS bombing in Iraq this week. Tony Blair is culpable. He led his country to war under false pretences.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch commented on Gareth O'Callaghan's photo.

Breaking the silence is an excellent source of information for Church cover up

Raphoe diocese covered up stuff - it was happening all over

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch commented on BBC Sunday Morning Live's photo.

Religious education is not education. Religionists still say the Bible is true despite the repeated and successful debunking of that book. It is the word of man not God. Education about religion would be fine as long as it avoids any unfair influencing of the pupils. Somebody wrote above that you cannot prove a negative – eg that there is no God.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to Grace Dalton's comment.

Jayne Challinor The worst thing about Grace is that she is immune to any point of view but her own Christian view. She wastes our time by putting nonsense on as if she is interested in truth. She is not.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to John Mackintosh-Wood's comment.

Tess Wysocki What people forget is that with Christianity and Islam you don't separate religion from anything else. Thus a committed Catholic in politics is expected to do politics religiously or in a Catholic way. You cannot say a Catholic or Muslim nation starting a war is not expression a form of religion by it.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to John Mackintosh-Wood's comment.

Helen Wood Read the Bible. Moses and God waged wars. So did Muhammad in the name of God. Wise up

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to Mark Tait's comment.

Grace Dalton You are arguing, "I don't know if it is true therefore it is true". Smarter people than you Grace have found that Christianity is a man-made religion with loads of errors. No historian or scientist is a Christian in the tradition sense. The Christians are more like doubters.
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Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to Grace Dalton's comment.

Hanif Qadir, Active Change Foundation, says "it's no surprise ...

I praise you for commenting that "The Bible's violence was specific to particular situations; then Jesus taught that, from now on, we must be peaceful. " But as violence is to be seen as a detestable evil I feel that any scripture that justifies it should be dropped. Real people died because of "God's" commands.

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Givenomoney2catholicchurch replied to Grace Dalton's comment.  20 November 2016 12:44

You are taking the gospel text out of context. Jesus rewarded the criminal for saying he deserved to die. The doctrine that Christianity does not endorse capital punishment is liberal tosh.



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