The Church says we must wish only good on the sinner and wish only evil on the sin. This is its infamous love the sinner and hate the sin.


That is not what it's Bible says.  God hates the unjust as if they are personally an abomination.  “He who justifies the wicked, and he who condemns the just, both of them alike are an abomination to the LORD" (Proverbs 17:15).


Psalm 137 is a prayer that God will take revenge on the Edomites and empower his people to kill their babies. It is argued that God inspired a man to tell his feelings but does not imply that God approves of what he was expressing. But does that argument really make sense?  A man will not declare that God can and will bless the killing of children which implies knowledge that God agrees with him and turn it into a hymn for God's liturgy unless that man thinks God is inspiring him.


Matthew 5:13 has Jesus rejecting love the sinner and oppose the sin as nonsense. “You are the salt of the earth. [You as a person] But if the salt loses its saltiness [saltiness what salt does], how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot."


The person who does no good is worthless in this view.


Titus 1:12 uses hate speech against Cretans.


Religion that tells you to believe the Bible is indirectly telling you to hate the sinner with the sin.

The religious teaching that we must hate sin and be eager to destroy it but must love the person who commits the sin sounds good but it rings true for nobody. It is just a statement that is easy to say - it drips off the smug tongue. It leads at best to confusion about how to evaluate, see and approach the sinner. It leads at worst to hate that is masked as love. If it leads you into confusion then it does not help you love the sinner at all. If love the sinner and hate the sin is a lie, then those who preach and present themselves as practicing it are frauds and hypocrites. Their claim that they do it is a boastful lie. Arrogance is no foundation for love. The more one practices such arrogance the more one feeds the hate and nourishes the passive aggression, the grudging love of the sinner that is not love at all. It leads to hatred towards people who are honest enough to admit that loving the sinner and hating the sin is nonsense.

If you want to be good at abusing and hurting another person, tell them you do it because you love them.

If they believe you, it is then and only then that you have power over them

Your innate qualities show in your behaviour. You can't be a sinner because you sin but you must sin because you are at least partly a sinner. Whoever says that they condemn your behaviour, and not your innate qualities are being pure hypocrites.

If people really want you to understand the sinner, why don't they say that we should not judge paedophiles or sadistic murderers unless we are paedophiles and sadistic murderers?

If you sin, you deserve to suffer and be hurt for your sin. Deserve means you get what is your fair due. Loving the sinner is not going to help them - it only helps you be smug

Catholicism is using its boast that it can love the sinner and hate the sin as an excuse for looking good while encouraging hate towards persons. It is Church teaching - ask it! - that our actions define us, and we can be held accountable for them. We are accountable for our actions - our actions cannot be accountable for themselves. Thus the sinner is the sin. The Church agrees with the Batman line, “It’s not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me.” Thus the Church is lying that it loves sinners and separates sin from sinners to hate the sin.

The notion that sinner and sin are separate contradicts the Church's own teaching on free will.

You may say human beings have the power to create good or sin by their will without being programmed etc. This is the doctrine of free will. Free will means that you use yourself to make evil or to make good and turn yourself evil or good as a person. You are your will according to the free will doctrine so if you make it evil you are evil. Free will contradicts love the sinner and hate the sin. It is absurd to say sin is dangerous - it is the sinner that is dangerous. Fear of the sinner leads to hate. Fear is the reason a person may hate another person.

The Church tells a deliberate lie that fools some. It says that if somebody is seriously sick you hate the sickness because you love the person. So it pretends this idea supports the notion that you can judge and hate a sin and love the sinner. But sin is deliberate. Sin may be described as a sickness in a sense but it the problem is not that. The problem is that it is deliberate. If sinners are sick then they need pity and help and should be forced into Heaven against their will for they don't know what they are doing. Punishment would be a sin and the evil person and the good person should get all the same benefits as if both are saints. It is twisted to use the suffering of others to justify a hypocritical doctrine.

The truth is the Church does not believe in loving sinners and hating sins at all - it believes in hiding its hatemongering.

We do not make a separation between the person and her good works so why should we make one between her and her sins? And how could we anyway? And a sin is not an entity that is separate from the person it is part of the person for sin is in the will and the will is part of the person, one of the main parts. Sin is the will and the will is the person so the person can be said to be the sin so to hate the sin is to hate the person who commits the sin as well. Sin is evil will that is expressed in an act and is not the outward act. Thus sin is shorthand for sinner.

To say you must love the sinner and hate the sins is to say that you must also separate the person from their good works. That would be a vile and inhuman stance to take.

The doctrine of loving the sinner and hating the sin is a wilful lie - and a smarmy one.


Many Christians do not see "Love the sinner" and "Hate the sin" as compatible.  They settle for saying that paradoxes are a reality and by some mystery God can truly love the sinner and hate that person at the same time and so can those who are given grace from God to be like God.  They live with the contradiction but they cannot deny they hate sinners.


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