PRAYER - THE TERRIBLE ADVICE FROM

THE MEDJUGORJE VISION FROM "HEAVEN"

MARY MOTHER OF JESUS

In 1981, on June 24th, a strange report heralded the beginning of the Medjugorje industry. Six children reported seeing a shape standing up a hill. The next day four of these with a few others went back to the hill and they got a closer look at the figure who said she was the Virgin Mary. Soon the Lady began to appear to them in the parish Church of Medjugorje. The seers are: Vicka Ivankovic, Mirjana Dragicevic, Marija Pavlovic, Ivan Dragicevic, Ivanka Ivankovic and Jakov Colo.  The "visions" are ongoing.

Many of the messages are bizarre.  One thing that stands out is how she keeps saying the plainest most boring things all the time.  This is consistent with the visionaries being afraid of making a mistake.

She said one time that a horror story about a bloody hanky that Jesus was prepared to destroy the world over was true.  Who would want to pray to a Jesus like that?  There is a lot about her and her account of God that does not really uphold a God worthy of being prayed to.

Then there is, “Pray, Pray, Pray. You will get nothing from chatter, but only from prayer. If someone asks you about me and about what I say, answer’ it is no use to explain. It is in praying that we will understand better” (October 27, 1983).

This is nonsense. Mormons pray a lot and their prayers only make them love the lies and fictions of their religion far far more. Chatter conveys information more than prayer does. The Church says that prayer enables you to receive help from God to understand the gospel. Why does she say we and not you? Because the message was made up by the children.

More nonsense follows which says that fasting does miracles and that good works and charity is no substitute. July 21, 1982  "The best fast is on bread and water. Through fasting and prayer, one can stop wars, one can suspend the laws of nature. Charity cannot replace fasting. Those who are not able to fast can sometime replace it with prayer, charity, and a confession; but everyone, except the sick, must fast."

In 1983, the Virgin said that the creed is the most beautiful prayer. She meant the Apostles Creed which was the mainly used creed in that area. People recited it to bless holy water and her beloved rosary began with it. It is the depth of spirituality in it that would appeal to her and not the words. And this depth consists of the fact that it contains doctrines God has revealed and is praising God indirectly by saying that his words are true. But there are so many doctrines left out of the creed. The Apostles Creed which is used at the start of the Rosary is the worst and the Nicene Creed which is an improvement but not great either but it would have been better. Why didn’t she recommend the Creed of Pope Pius V which confesses all the major Catholic doctrines? The Virgin did not say that the creed was the nicest prayer. To her the Our Father which prays for God to change you would be better and contains prayers of submission to God such as, “Thy kingdom come, thy will be done” would have been the nicest prayer. Jesus recommended the Our Father when he was asked by people who used creeds and scriptures and psalms to pray as if it was better than any other prayer and nicer. If she liked creeds because they state beliefs then she would have put the best creed of all at the start of the Rosary which she said she revealed, not the worst and vaguest one.

“But why are you praying? To be with God. To experience God within you. After five minutes of prayer something ought to happen within you, if you do it properly” (March 1985).

This denies that quality and not quantity matters. It is putting a time limit on God’s power. Jesus said that we must not think that God will hear us better if we pray more. The Church tradition has recommended ejaculations or short prayers. “Sacred Heart of Jesus, I place all my trust in thee”, is an example. The Church always said that you can pray for a grace from God and you will only know if something has happened to bless your soul with virtue because of that prayer later – later as in may be years later. And you will know you have been blessed when you do something good but unusual for you to do.

“Today, I invite you to pray every day for the souls in purgatory…By this way, dear children, you will gain new intercessors” (November 6, 1986). If the souls in purgatory only pray for those who helped them then they will never get out of that place or if they are in Heaven they should not be. And the Virgin dares to preach loving the person who has not helped you and enemies!