The new pope is elected by votes cast in the Sistine Chapel. Yet the Church says that the Holy Spirit chooses the pope for it. So how does the Holy Spirit manage to get voters to think his way? What if they don’t want to? Why is the Church not infallible when it picks the pope for it has picked some disasters? Does it make sense to say God picks the pope at all? It would be more reasonable if names were just pulled out of a hat for then the Spirit could make the right slip of paper miraculously get between the cardinal’s thumb and fingers when he is pulling it out. The Holy Spirit is stronger with the pope than with anyone so shouldn’t the pope have some control over who his successor will be? This is all ecclesiastical politics.
The pope allegedly functions as a marker for the true Church. Catholics argue that when there is a true Church there must be a pope. But if the Church errs then it is not the true Church and Christians are obliged to set up a reformed one which would then be the true Church. The Catholic Church is drunk with error and obstinately refuses to change therefore the papacy is a hoax for it does not mark a true Church.

The exiled pope Martin I died in September 655.  He did not resign when he was exiled.  The previous year on August 10, the diocese of Rome decided upon electing Eugene I as pope. The Church regards the latter as pope though it is clear that Martin was still pope.  Martin was in no position to do anything about that illicit election.  That there was no talk of a schism or a problem with the bishops accepting this state of affairs shows that the pope was not regarded as leader of the Church in any sense.  The same issue happened with John XII when Leo VIII was elected though John was still pope.  Worse Benedict V was elected when John was alive.

Reason and Belief, pages 82-83, tells us that Innocent I excommunicated the Pelagians for heresy and the Greek pope, Zozimus who succeeded him cancelled the excommunication and accepted the Pelagians as true orthodox Catholics. Nicholas III was contradicted by John XXII who disputed his doctrine that Christ and the apostles practiced extreme poverty.

If popes were really markers for the true Church only men who would not excommunicate unjustly would be chosen by God. Popes that do excommunicate unfairly will only divide the Church. Even if an excommunication is invalidated by its unfairness a division still results. The Church says the pope will be forcibly stopped by God if he tries to make an infallible dogma that owing to its falsity should not be made at all. But unreasonable or mistaken excommunications do the faith more harm than fake dogmas and always cause harm to the deposit of faith. They always affect belief in what group is the true Church which is worse if the true Church has to claim to be infallible to the exclusion of all others. If the pope were infallible and if the Church was infallible then their excommunications would be infallible too. But neither of these entities go that far. Why should we trust the pope at all when he says he is infallible? Infallibility is just a superstition. We can take it for granted that when the pope or Church excommunicates anybody for heresy that they are also automatically stating that the doctrine at the centre of the issue is automatically and indirectly and authentically being infallibly defined. People were excommunicated for protesting against the persecution of Jews and heretics and witches by the papacy. What does that tell you then?

Doctrinal disagreement in the one true Church means there are at least two factions and one of the factions has to be closer to the truth than the other or the others meaning you have the truest Church within the true Church! The divisions cannot really be one Church for you need doctrinal unity to have a Church. Their existence in one Church is a case where looks can be deceiving. Doctrinal division is worse than a schism in which the two factions still follow similar doctrines for they may be divided in physical unity but the unity of doctrine is more important for it is basic to physical unity.

If the pope or Church condemns something as heresy then it follows that they are saying you will be excommunicated if you refuse to believe in it. So even if infallibility is not expressly invoked it is indirectly invoked for if excommunications have to be infallible it follows that they have to be just and they can only be just if a person is stepping outside the faith by denying a particular doctrine meaning that the doctrine is being recognised by the Church as a part of the infallible inerrant faith.
There have been some disputed elections of popes in the past. The cardinals who elected Urban VI later said that they did it for they were afraid of a mob and they declared him an antipope and so they elected a new pope, Clement VII. The Church was divided causing the Great Western Schism. This happened several times in the history of the papacy and who the real pope was is just a matter of opinion. If such a thing could happen then surely the pope can fall into heresy and lead the Church astray? It is better to have a pope who goes bad than to be following a man as the infallible Vicar of Christ and the rock the Church is built on who might not even be pope. If such a thing can happen it is possible for somebody who is invalidly elected – for example, somebody who doesn’t want to be a real pope but just goes through the motions to get favours from the Devil or out of hatred for Christ – to be thought by the whole Church to be pope. Perhaps Pius IX who loved power so much wasn’t a real pope? Some rock!
The papacy is a blight on the world with many of its evil policies. To argue that the Catholic Church is the true Church because it is led by Peter’s successor is simplistic. Yet it is the kind of thinking that the Catholic Church deceptively fosters in the naïve.

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Pope John Paul II condemned as an immoral and traitorous and heretical pope

Of Bones and Boners: St Peter at the Vatican, Frank R. Zindler ,

Has Rome Become the Seat of the Antichrist? Br Michael Diamond OSB
This page claims that prophecies about the Vatican apostatising have come true and that the pope, John Paul II is a fake and a heretic. It reports on evidence from Masons and Communists that they had a plan to subvert the Church from within and had placed spies and impostors in the Church. Pope John Paul II was the first pope not to take the standard oath to defend the traditions of the Church and the canon laws and to excommunicate anyone who threatened the faith of the Church. That shows that there is more to this heretic than meets the eye and he is famous for allowing fake Catholics to function within the Church. Padre Pio who was famous for seeing the future snubbed Karol Wojtyla, he who would become John Paul II. It is said too that John Paul II having stated that religious freedom is lawful is contradicting Leo XIII who said that once you give men the right to believe whatever they will you give them the right to refuse to believe in loving God and remove all restraint on crime. It has been noticed too that the pope claims that Muslims worship the same God as Christians though the Muslim God said that anybody who believes in a three in one God is as impure as dung. In 1986 the pope let ash that was a sign of devotion to the Hindu god Shiva be placed on his forehead. In Assisi 1986 the pope invited devil-worshipping animists to pray with him there for peace. The psalm says that the gods of the pagans are all evil or demons (95:5). And there have been similar meetings since, ones in Warsaw and Bari for instance. Another fault is that Cardinal Ratzinger, the pope’s right hand man, has stated that the resurrection of Jesus is not a historical event the way the crucifixion of Jesus is. The 1917 Code of Canon Law states that if the pope becomes a heretic he is no longer pope. Even the autocratic Innocent III stated that a pope who becomes a heretic is to be cast out and ignored.


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