Vicka caught faking apparitions at Medjugorje
The
Marian apparitions of Medjugorje may rank among the greatest religious hoaxes of
all time. Some scientists are saying there is at least one impostor among the
six visionaries who is not really seeing anything at all according to tests. And
a documentary produced with the collaboration of France and Canada that is so
pro-apparition that it would not dare to say it unless it couldn’t be denied
called Apparitions of the Virgin Mary says it (Galaxie Productions, Amaya Films,
2000). Now would such a thing be allowed to happen all this time? Surely the
visionaries must know who this person is? The Virgin would chat to them all and
anybody being ignored would soon been noticed. She would tell the true
visionaries because all six give out messages and it means at least one person
is giving out fake ones. The real Virgin would not have that and certainly not
for so long. That this was not discovered by scientific teams long ago but is
coming out now makes one wonder what kind of foolishness they were calling
scientific tests before. The fake visionary went through a lot of fake praying
and bother which makes us unimpressed by the seeming devotion of the others.
Is the fake Vicka? If one is a fake then why one? Why not two or all of them?
Vicka jumps away from the man about to stab her in the eyes during a “vision”.
She claims she is not aware of what is around her when seeing the Virgin and
that she jumped because Mary seemed to be about to drop the baby Jesus and she
wanted to catch him! Then why jump backwards and not open the hands to catch the
child? Also note that these two visionaries are not looking in the same
direction. It is as if they are only pretending that there is a person only the
visionaries can see in front of them.
We read the following on the Marian times website, an excerpt from Unity
Publishing with Marian Times comments in red.
On January 14, 1985, while in "ecstasy", a Frenchman quickly pointed two fingers
at Vicka's eyes. Vicka gave a start and threw her head back. All was filmed on
camera. She was not in ecstasy. Vicka left the room with the Franciscan priest
and came back a few minutes later. The camera continued to film. She announced
without being asked:
"I did not see Jean-Louis [the Frenchman] nor his hand. I saw the Virgin. She
had the child, Jesus, in her arms. At a certain moment, the Child slipped, (sic)
and I simply made a movement to stop him from falling."
God slipped? The Child, Jesus slipped? How stupid do these Franciscan priests
think we are? Two weeks later, the priests closed the apparitions to the outside
public. They have been protected from anyone getting too close ever since.
This is the single reported "anomaly" during 25+ years of apparitions. I put
"anomaly" in quotes because actually nothing happened. A man called Jean Louis
got excited about a coincidence. Rick has exaggerated the situation to bolster
his argument. What people readily believed was Vicka's "reaction" to a quick
two-finger stabbing motion by Jean Louis consisted of a 14mm deflection of the
head and the batting of an eyelid. Because the finger-stab and the "reaction"
appeared to be sequential, the assumption was that Vicka reacted directly to
Jean Louis's finger-stab. Rick Salbato (or whoever his source is) then dressed
it up to paint a picture of a violent throwing of the head backwards, with a
grimace. There was ZERO change in expression on Vicka's face over all relevant
frames of the film studied by scientists, which is completely inconsistent with
a supposed reaction to a sharp movement towards the eyes. Combine that with a
tiny 14mm deflection and you can see the truth of the matter. The conclusion of
the scientists who studied the film was that the reaction of Vicka was NOT AS A
RESULT OF THREAT TO HER EYES. The timing was slightly out between the finger
poke and the alleged reaction to the finger poke.
Subsequently, Vicka gave a clear and straightforward explanation. Note that this
explanation was provided during a question and answer session immediately after
the apparition and the question asked of Vicka was whether there was anything
that happened during the apparition that had disturbed her. This puts paid to
any speculation that Vicka got together with the priests to talk her way out of
being "sprung". Vicka did the natural thing in responding to this question. She
searched her mind and offered the only plausible reason she could recall for
possibly having experienced disturbance. The only thing she could think of that
disturbed her was that it crossed her mind that baby Jesus might fall from the
hands of the Gospa. Remember that after apparitions these types of questions
from reporters are routine. They are asked such things as "We noticed that you
smiled so brightly at one point. What was the Gospa saying to you then?" (Click
here for further information about the Jean Louis incident .)
The pertinent fact is that Medjugorje is the first apparition to be studied in
depth by the scientific community and the astounding results of tests on the
visionaries, including electric shocks, 1000 watt bulbs in front of their eyes,
etc, etc, are well-documented. Please see Medjugorje Scientific Investigation.
This simply cannot be argued with. No-one in the scientific community has any
requirement to lie about the visions at Medjugorje.
So Vicka was concentrating so deeply that her reaction was fairly slow and
fairly small. But she still reacted.
The priests could have warned the visionaries that what happened to Vicka could
happen and already told them what to say if it did. Vicka then just said what
they told the visionaries to say. There is no need to think the priests had to
tell her what to say between the event and her question and answer session.
Marian Times tries to say it was a coincidence. It’s too much of a coincidence.
Do you really think God sending an apparition of the baby Jesus would really
alarm a visionary at that particular moment? God is not a God of confusion and
he wouldn’t give ammunition to unbelievers.
It is totally mad to think that Mary held the baby Jesus so clumsily that
somebody thought he was going to fall. You do more than jump if you think
somebody is about to drop a child – you shout. Even if her voice is silent she
should still have been seen mouthing a shout. She wasn’t. She regained composure
too fast
Notice how Marian times doesn’t try to refute Rick Salbato for saying she said
“the Child slipped, (sic) and I simply made a movement to stop him from
falling”. She jumped away from the vision not towards it which she would have
done had she really wanted to catch him. And would the child really slip? Why
didn’t the other visionaries react?
Even if something supernatural is going on we must question the source of it.
lying visionaries could be seeing something different from what they say they
are seeing.
To suggest the event wasn’t an anomaly but an “anomaly” is clearly indicatory of
the author’s doubts about what he is writing. He doesn’t believe what he is
writing himself. And besides, who would?
And the Jean-Louis incident proves that a lot of lies are being told to promote
and give evidence for this apparition being really from God.
Vicka in September 2013. A statue of Our Lady of Lourdes glows in Vicka's old
house. “I was on the road when my mother called and told me. I just told her,
“This is Our Lady’s will. Pray!” Vicka tells the Croatian daily Slobodna
Dalmacija.
The statue was taken for investigation and was never mentioned since. Images of
it show that it was plastered in luminous paint and is a hoax.
http://www.medjugorje.ws/en/articles/video/vicka-her-story/?page=11
This link shows Vicka saying her Gospa told her that
babies that die become angels in Heaven. Catholic doctrine is that man
cannot become an angel for an angel by definition is a being that never had a
body. Babies become saints.
Again two “visionaries” looking in different directions and expressing different
emotions as if they are play acting
Vicka has been doing exorcisms. The following tells us she did one in July 1985 http://www.cafarus.ch/mark.pdf
and in July 1987 she was involved in an exorcism of an Italian woman that had no results.
Her actions are in no way agreeable with Catholic teaching which is extremely strict and cautious regarding exorcisms.
It has been noticed that when Vicka meets the crowd there is often a terrible scream that is put down to somebody there being possessed by the devil. Nobody sees who does the screaming and Vicka and the priests do nothing about it - is it a recording? There are some crazy pilgrims who would just scream but otherwise it seems orchestrated.
Vicka's diary has her saying the virgin sided with a corrupt priest against the bishop. "December 19, 1981 – (Saturday) – I asked the Gospa about the Herzegovina problem, especially that which relates to Father Ivica Vego. The Gospa said that Bishop Zanic is the one most guilty for all these disorders. As to Father Ivica Vego, she said that he is not guilty, but that the Bishop has full power. She told him to stay in Mostar and not to leave there." The virgin gets involved in an ecclesiastical dispute and does not care that bishops are supposed to be obeyed even if wrong.
People say that nobody keeps a religious hoax going for
years and says nothing. Vicka does not have to say anything. Her
actions say it for her.