When Jesus Earned Our Salvation for Us
CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE: Jesus was the only sinless human being ever. He came to pay the price for our sins by suffering and enduring abandonment by God on the cross. We deserve Hell so he went through Hell on the cross to save us. He took the punishment from God that we deserve. God says that Jesus became sin for us on the cross so that we might holy. God cursed Jesus for our breaking the Law of Moses as Paul says in Galatians.
REPLY: Jesus was not God then.
You may ask why didn't God become man and atone himself? It is logically impossible for a man to be fully man and also full God. God is happy in himself. Even if Jesus were God, only the human nature would suffer and the divinity would be untouched. God and Jesus would be the one being. Jesus would be fully God and fully man. Two natures in one person. But because there are two natures, experientially it would be as if they were not one person. Experience is probably what counts. God and Jesus were separate beings but the same result happens whether Jesus is God or not. You still have a human nature having a human experience of suffering and a divine nature that cannot suffer. Even if Jesus were God, the Bible says he did not know all things as man. The doctrine of separate experience for Jesus and God is definitely in the Bible.
God cannot be man anyway. The religion disguises this as a mystery and says we are wrong. It is incoherent nonsense and there is no analogy that works to explain it.
Did God send Jesus to do the dirty work?
Christian doctrine is that he would do it himself. But was it dirty work or a necessity?
Anyway the doctrine goes,
Jesus atoned for our
sins
We are sure that we
cannot save ourselves. Sin is so
malicious that God cannot simply forgive it. He needs to be paid for it. Jesus pays for our
sin and then he forgives us. This is real forgiveness for we haven't paid
ourselves.
The atonement is a noble doctrine for:
It tells us we cannot save ourselves by doing good. If we do good, we must do it because it is good and not to get saved. It humbles us.
It offers us freedom from our sins.
It admits that our repentance for sin is always inadequate. We simply cannot love God as he deserves and as Jesus commanded, even for a moment. Would you suffer forever torment so that others could go free if God asked you? If you would not then you value yourself more than good. You value yourself more than others and more than God and so are guilty of the greatest sin which is failure to keep the commandment to love God with all your heart. Jesus proclaimed that this was the greatest commandment of all. He proclaimed it the most basic one. We cannot keep the basics. God would never accept our repentance as justification for forgiving us. Its a shabby insult. If we are saved, we are not saved because we repent. We are saved because Jesus has done it all for us.
My comment on this is that it is a form of antinomianism where the evil you do is ignored by God. It is blasphemous. The deductions are so insane and immoral that they clearly can only arise from there being something wrong with the doctrine of salvation by the blood of Jesus in the first place. The Catholic Church thinks it connects to and perpetuates the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross in the Mass. This is shameful.
