Hypocrites try to distort Jesus and the Bible to avoid saying that he taught that if a person dies in great enough sin they will never see the presence of God.  Ever.

They do not deny that he taught something awful happens that he compared to Gehenna, a place of tears and terror and degradation.

Why then we are supposed to want to get rid of the eternal in the eternal exclusion doctrine?  It makes as much sense as saying that we should be okay with being tortured in prison for the next ten years for at least it is not eleven.

Anyway we are told that Jesus only sought to warn us and offered to help us go to God forever.  Should Jesus have taught the doctrine of everlasting punishing even if it exists?

If Jesus was indeed just a man and not God or his Son then we would be right to read passive-aggression into this.  Bullies always do that.  If that is not-passive aggressive nothing is.  He would have got pleasure out of seeing the fear in others.

The Christian, the believer in the sinlessness and infallibility of Jesus, will say that he was right to preach Hell even if he wasn’t. He or she would preach, “It was good of Jesus to warn us about the existence of everlasting punishment. It reminds us about how bad sin is and how unwise it is to commit it. If there was no such thing as Hell or if we walked through life oblivious of it we would sin more. We need it to put us off sinning”.

Some Christians say they cannot assert that we need to be warned about Hell in case we find ourselves in it for that seems like denying the power of God to save a person from Hell even if that person does have free will. They say God works mainly through people and secondly through other things.  Thus God is powerful enough to melt a hardened heart.

Jesus said we must have disinterested love for our neighbour. Love of neighbour is really love of God.  Jesus wanted us to practice disinterested love. He made sure we wouldn’t when he revealed Hell for it is psychologically impossible to sincerely avoid sin that leads to Hell for a selfless reason. You cannot really reject a sin because you love God and not because you are afraid of Hell. You would be abnormal and deranged if you could. When Jesus made Hell a part of the faith he taught he was destroying the very selflessness he commanded. Nobody can really love God for to have a selfish motive mixed with unselfish is impossible because if you were really unselfish you would drop the selfish motive. If God did not tell us about Hell but limited our intelligence so that we could not even think it might exist that would prevent us from doing good to avoid the suffering of Hell. The fact that we can think of Hell proves there is no God and that the Bible is just human writings and that Christianity is incapable of selflessness and only wears a mask of altruism.

The argument that Hell is a good deterrent for sinners is an insult to God because it denies what he said about love and goodness. He says they are selfless acts of goodness, forgetting about yourself and thinking only of what is best for himself. If we were here to please ourselves there would be no need for suffering and we would not be here but in Heaven. A good and almighty God would only make us suffer if it could make us selfless. If a person turns away from sin because of Hell that is no use for it is punishment he hates not sin. This person only acts repentant but is not really. If a person stops sinning because of the selfless love of God and because of the dread of Hell then this repentance is not genuine either. If the person truly loves God she or he will not have the selfish motive. She or he can repent for love alone. She or he can stop having the other motive. Jesus said we must selflessly love God with all our strength so if he preached the existence of everlasting torture it was not because he wanted it to help to make a better world.

If you love God for his sake and not your own then you would endure everlasting torment for him. It is psychologically impossible to tell God that you love him for his own sake and not to avoid the everlasting pains of Hell and mean it. That is really saying that if the love of God required you to undergo this unnecessary pain you would. You can’t really love a God who does not even need your love and who is perfectly happy to freedom from everlasting pain. The Hell doctrine then prevents the very love for which God allegedly made us. It means that if God made us he made us for suffering and pain. It makes God into the epitome of malignancy and a very dangerous idea. Acceptance of the Hell doctrine forces you to be selfish and when you believe that selfishness is always wrong as the God doctrine says many of your morals will soon be abandoned.  When Jesus commanded us to love God for God’s own sake he was commanding mental illness. Even if these considerations draw you to the idea that there is a God but that there cannot be a Hell the problem is not solved. Even if Hell does not exist the pure love of God still demands that you must love God and prefer to suffer forever for him if need be even if there is no such suffering.

Religion says that free will implies the right to finally turn away from God.  Jesus never said he saw it that way.  If that is the bottom line then we needed to be told.  He never said, "God has given you free will and it is a dangerous gift but necessary for your dignity.  God will never force his love on you."  It needed to be laid out in clear times.  Saying that Jesus did say we abuse free will does not mean he made the link.  Plus the language of Gehenna implies God is exacting hatred and revenge on the people who die without him.

If Jesus preached everlasting perdition for a reason then he certainly did wrong. Either his reason was a childish one or a bad one. Telling people to believe such a horrible and distressing doctrine when no good could come of it is very very abusive.

To tell a person that they deserve everlasting punishment if they are sinners is to say something very serious indeed. You know that you have to have proof before you can tell anybody they are guilty of murder and should be jailed for life. Imagine then how strong the evidence has to be to entitle you to say they deserve INFINITE torment! To believe in a religion that asks you to approve even of the eternal loss of even one person no matter how satisfactory the evidence for that religion is, is almost psychopathic. To say that God asks you to believe in Hell is a blasphemy of diabolical proportions.

The mere fact that Jesus said there is a Hell is enough to prove that he is not the entirely trustworthy prophet Christians put him up to be. The founders of the early Church were just as unreliable when they turned such a person into the supreme manifestation of the divine.
If Jesus preached everlasting punishing for no real reason then he should have had the decency to realise that it could do untold harm. He just didn’t care.

The doctrine of everlasting punishment is harmful and is cruel for those who are supposedly warned about it. Thinking it is real or possible does real harm.  If you think somebody could lead your beloved to hell you will suffer a raging hate for that person. A terrorist even a sincere one who believes what he is doing is right is still a terrorist. The doctrine makes a terrorist of God. And those serve him and form Churches for him are accessories to his crimes. We regard people as evil when they accuse another of wrong without sufficient reason and yet religion demands the right to accuse others of deserving Hell, for example, they think prostitutes who die will go to Hell forever unless they repent. It has no evidence for all for hell and its doctrines being the truth. The evidence is biased and the evidence for Jesus’ resurrection for example is destroyed by the fact that non-religious miracles are more convincing and more numerous.
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