Each and every one of us is too good for baptism and especially when we are babies.
Let us consider the wrongs of child religious initiation in terms of Christian
baptism. What we learn can apply to most religions. We need to study this to
start the healing process and the plan for healing.
Baptism is based on giving a heavy responsibility, a
social and spiritual responsibility, on the child. It has consequences and
is about promises that call the child to heavily sacrifice for a religious
fraud. It is abuse. Turning baptism into an excuse for a party does
not change what it is but in fact confirms the promises for why not just have
the party? Your getting the baby baptised still says something!
Why do people get their babies baptised?
The answer is because their religion commands it or because everybody else does
it. Doing it because everybody else does is not a reason but an excuse. What
most people around you do is not necessarily right. It is not right to make a
decision for a child based on what other people think. It’s the child’s welfare
and rights that are paramount.
For some there is another reason too.
Munchausen syndrome by proxy can take the form of the parent
projecting their own perceived spiritual illnesses and failures unto
the child. Vice and so-called sin are seen in the child and
the parent seeks baptism for the child and a religious upbringing.
They are not there but the parent needs them to be. It is a
distraction from the parent's own problems and the parent uses the
child to get pitied. The parent is hurting the child to get
attention. This parental disorder explains why so many, not just Christians,
work so hard to work for the indoctrination of children even into
what they must know is a lying and harmful religious faith.
The parents want to validate their own evil so they support such
treatment of other people's children as well. There is comfort
in numbers.
So why does religion want the babies baptised?
Reason One, to make the babies members of a religion and therefore duty bound to
believe its tenets - to make them members of the “true faith”.
This makes the babies members of a religion without their consent. It suggests
that the religion is more important than their rights and what is best for them
when their consent is so unimportant. Godparents can't really consent for a
child. It is their consent not the child's that is given.
Religion will answer that we don’t choose the circumstances we are born in so we
are entitled to be baptised without our permission as babies. But we have to be
born. We don't have to be baptised. It's different. If we are enrolled into
religion by baptism then why draw the line there? Why not initiate children into
political parties as well? Politics affects us more than religion ever could.
Because a religion is based on beliefs about matters of faith and morals,
getting your baby baptised is a promise to have them indoctrinated by this
religion as soon as they get old enough to learn. When you are led to believe
something without being told the whole truth that is indoctrination.
Indoctrination is wrong for children are so defenceless, vulnerable and easily
conditioned. This conditioning will be done by people who don’t have the
expertise or the honesty to look into religion objectively to see what is best
for the baby. And do parents have the right to put their child forward for
baptism when they themselves fall into that category? Even the true religion, if
there is one, doesn’t have the right to seek an unfair advantage of inducing
faith in its beliefs in a child. It might say that not inducing beliefs is
impossible. So if you say nothing the child will believe there is no God or
something. But belief in ordinary things is enough for a child. A child cannot
find God that important.
Reason Two, so that God will forgive the sin the baby had since the first moment
of their existence in the waters of baptism - so that God will let them into
Heaven if they die. Baptism forgives the sin and also takes away the hold of sin
over the baby so that the baby can live a saintly life with the grace of God –
that is why babies are said to be born again in baptism.
The doctrine of the Church that children have original sin which needs baptism
to be forgiven and to undo the bias it causes towards sin is a sectarian and
bigoted thesis. It accuses those who do not have their children baptised of
harming them and making them harm others. It is accepted that people who believe
people outside their sect are inferior are bigots. This stance is socially
opposed these days so let child baptism be opposed as well. And we see no
difference between baptised and unbaptised children. We must not imagine that
there is a spiritual difference. In fact many Muslims - and Muslims don’t
believe in baptism - are often holier than baptised people. The doctrine is
laced with bigotry.
Another question: why does the Catholic Church say that babies must be baptised
without unnecessary delay?
The reason is to get them baptised fast in case the parents see sense and don't
bother.
The Church does not admit that but claims that a baby is entitled to all the
spiritual benefits of baptism including forgiveness of original sin and some
healing from the tendency to sin as soon as is feasible. We are not talking
about the chance that the baby might die unbaptised here. The Church is
certainly suggesting that a child is damaged somehow and hated by God until it
is baptised so there is a sense of urgency. The longer you wait the longer your
child offends God and that offence needs to be addressed.
No person who understands baptism would let their child be degraded by the
superstitious nonsense of baptism.
COMMENTS ON NEWSPAPER ARTICLES
Comment in response to the Atheist Parent's Guide in Refusing Baptism
http://voices.yahoo.com/atheist-parents-guide-refusing-baptism-4885698.html?cat=25#comments
It is not true that infant baptism is harmless.
To have a child baptised commits that child to Christianity and to do this
lightly or insincerely is a bad example for the child.
The reality is that when I was baptised Catholic I was put under Church law. I
am obligated to believe in Catholicism and am considered a grave sinner for not
doing so. I am obligated to serve and worship Jesus. As a Bible reader, I know
the sweetness and light Jesus is a myth and I find the man and his principles
quite disturbing. Eg he was a hellfire fanatic. I felt very bullied growing up
for I knew that my baptism gave people the "right" to force Catholic religion
and culture on me. It is the principle. And if you believe in the supernatural
or suspect that it might exist, some people would say that as my baptism put
spiritual forces into me, it is a matter of opinion if those forces were really
good or bad. Baptism accuses a baby of needing forgiveness from God. It always
intends harm in that sense. Nobody has the right to accuse somebody without
solid proof. Also, if baptism makes you a Catholic, you will be a Catholic in
the eyes of the state. The state indeed should make laws in line with papal
doctrine if enough of its citizens identify as Catholics and obey the pope. You
do not want your child to become part of that for it endangers human rights. A
religion is a form of politics - it governs, it lays down laws, it hopes to see
members of other religions abandon their religions and join it, it claims the
right to influence the law and voting. When you identify yourself too closely
with your religion, you end up taking its ideas as part of you. But you are not
your ideas or beliefs. A strong religious identity is demeaning. Also, it means
you will get mad and offended should anybody contradict or criticise or
challenge your religion. Baptism is about conferring a religious identity and
that is an unacceptable thing to do to a baby or a child.
If an atheist does not attend a christening out of principle, some will say to
her or him that it is the baby's day and not yours. This is nonsense.
Celebrations are about community, it may be done for the baby but not just for
the baby. It is meant to be a joint celebration and participation. Would you
really want people at your wedding if you thought they thought the day was about
you and not them as well?
New Statesman - Is religion losing its rights or just its special privileges?
2014
Everybody says that religion is okay if not forced on people. But the reality is
that it is often forced. For example, a born again Christian who considers the
Catholic Mass to be offensive to God and therefore out of bounds may be forced
to attend for state functions.
For example babies are forced into Catholicism by baptism which is unfair
because of the nature of Church doctrine. It is stuff you would need to make a
decision to sign up to. It is not like being made something harmless like a
Quaker or a Buddhist. I am sorry I was baptised into a religion that promotes
discrimination, claims the Bible is true against all the evidence, teaches that
we can be bad enough to commit a sin that puts us in Hell forever and so on.
Baptism in Catholicism imposes religious membership and the obligation to obey
Church law on the baby. This is not right in itself. A baby is the best of
humankind and does not need religion or religious membership for the alleged
forgiveness of original sin in baptism. Also it is not right considering few
parents know enough about religion and its controversies to make an informed
decision about baptising their child.
Hozier Criticises Baptism of Babies
Baptism is said to be about making a person good by putting God’s power in them.
That doctrine is an insult to the good people who were never baptised. There
were paragons of virtue among the pagans.
Plus I am boiling mad at how the priesthood uses baptism to try and make a
defenseless baby a Catholic and it does not help people make an informed choice.
Converts to the Church and children who are encouraged to stay Catholic are not
told what they have a right to know.
If there is no God, we are telling ourselves that the suffering of others is
part of his plan and somehow justified. That is a very serious thing to get
wrong. It is not a trivial matter – it is suffering we are talking about.
And if Christ is not God the Catholic is worshiping a false God.
And if the bread and wine at communion are not Jesus then they are idols.
And what about the violent God who Christ gave allegiance to? God commanded that
brides who didn't seem to be virgins on the wedding night be stoned to death.
And there were many other "sins" that got that fate. Christ never apologised for
the murders carried at at God’s behest in the Old Testament and indeed insisted
on believing in the Old Testament as having been written by God through men. The
fact that most Catholics today do not obey these commands only means the
following: that they think they don't apply in current circumstances, that
somebody else can put them into action instead - not everybody has the same job
to do in life, that they don't have enough faith. None of these reasons are
praiseworthy. If their faith is too weak for them to consider killing then it is
proof that they refuse to kill in so far as they are not touched by their faith.
They are not being very Catholic if they would refuse to kill if God commanded
them to. It would be foolish to point to them as proof that people as Catholics
are not enablers or doers of violence.
And as for parents having to baptise their children to get them into Catholic
schools that is a disgrace. Parents could decide they want an unbaptised child
learning about Catholicism so that she can make her own decision about being
baptised when she is able to decide for herself. And would a decent person want
their child baptised in the name of Jesus a man who condoned murder and violent
scriptures? Would one really want a child to be spiritually joined to him? That
union is what baptism is about. The Bible believer today does not stone
homosexuals but he approves of the fact that it was done in the past at God's
behest in the Bible. Jesus upheld the Old Testament doctrine that its laws are
infallible and from God. Jesus never apologised for the killings. He even said
that killing the adulteress by stoning her is fine if you are without sin. If
you praise violent scriptures as God's word, you take responsibility for the
contents and the consequences. If somebody thinks the rules about stoning are in
force today you need to take responsibility for that and the results.
If God exists and does not consider babies in need of forgiveness, does not hate
sin so much that he declares it worthy of everlasting torment, does not ban
unrepentant boys who masturbate from Heaven then how can you face him?
None of this stuff should be trivialised and the Church is encouraging a form of
recklessness and manipulates its members.
Facebook 2016 about the Church discriminating against unbaptised children in its
schools
Catholic doctrine is that anybody can baptise and it is a real baptism. Church
law forbids that except in an emergency but that is only a human rule. Who
cares? Why don't people do their own baptisms? Involving priests only gives them
power over the child's future and their education and their schools. I would
urge people that to tell a child that everybody is innocent until proven guilty
does not mean much if you accuse babies of needing God's forgiveness in baptism
for original sin! A Catholic baptism can wreck the child's life later on for it
puts the child under church law with all its silly and dreadful and bigoted
rules about marriage in particular. Eg marrying a divorced person is not
marriage in the eyes of the Church. Also is it right to put the child under laws
that say that if she fails to attend mass weekly she will be eternally damned
unless she gets absolution from a priest? If the Holy Spirit enters your soul at
baptism to put you through all that how Holy is he?